E-Mails Received and/or Exchanged
began when I mailed this out....
It Takes a Village: A
To Hillary Clinton
TAKES A VILLAGE
It takes a village (so we're told), to raise a child
It takes a village (we reply), to steal his heart
To purge old-fashioned do's and don'ts from his
To leave old fashioned Ma and Pa, a hundred years
It takes a village, verily, to teach some mothers'
To steal and gamble, smoke and swear, and vandalize
His mother didn't teach him that! His father? No,
It takes a village to corrupt, a village verily.
It takes a village, this we know, to teach the
To dress and act, to look and talk, like women of
It takes a village, not a doubt, to teach a maiden
To save the monkeys, owls, and whales, yet kill her
It takes a village public school, some subtle class
To teach the little boys and girls to act like alley
To teach them of the birds and bees, without
To teach them what to do and how, and tell them they
It takes a village, yes indeed, to brainwash all our
With notions and with fallacies, in place of sense
Abortion rights! The right to die! the rights of
Creative spelling! Unisex! the rights of criminals!
It takes a village, well we know, to turn their
To stand for fancied "Children's rights,"
and parents' rights deny.
To honor human nature less, and trees and rivers
To sacrifice to Mother Earth, and Father God ignore.
"It takes a village," so they say, but
something more they mean.
United Nations, Washington, The Liberal machine.
Society, the "Brave New World," the
The global ideology; It's here.....The New World
Sun, 9 May 1999 15:28:34 -0500
Subject: A young teen on the mailing
A young girls' perspective........ This is the granddaughter
of a dear friend, and she and my
Brandi have shared e-mails. Response:
Re: Government Wisdom?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 06:57:38 -0500
i wouldn't have to reply to this, but i am not for
anything you mentioned. what i learn, is what
i need to know. i am sorry Ms.Baker, but i don't
think anything is wrong with me learning those
things in school.
Sat, 8 May 1999 14:38:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Government Wisdom?
Your response confuses me a bit. I
reread the "Village" thing that I
forwarded when I received it.... SO I went back
and reread again and wondered if you would be
more specific as to what you disagreed with and
also, as to what you learn? Is it that you are
pro-choice and were offended at the criticism of
the abortion issue as stated from a pro-life view?
The piece is primarily speaking about things like
morals, values and parental/family relationships
which are being eroded by the subrogation of
traditional authority and respect. I
would be very interested in learning more about how
you think on this. I have relationships with young
people your age and they actually liked that `piece'
very much. In fact, you are the only one that seems
to see something negative about it.
really like to see and understand your point of
from your position within the modern scheme-of-things in a fast-paced and
frenetic lifestyle, without further alienation and
intervention (from school teachings) to exacerbate
the angst of your generation and the alienation,
rebellion and pain of relationships in families...
Love and hugs, Brandi sends a hello and hug too,
From your GYPSY, (Nina)
Re: Government Wisdom?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:12:14 -0500
i am not for abortion, but it is that woman's
choice. and i do not belive that school is
corruptting family values. i belive that the rotten
family values are from the parents passed down. i
have a friend whose parents drink every night and
leave him and his two brothers alone very often with
a sitter and go to Vegas for the week. or on an
Alaskan cruise for a month. so is it his fault that,
because when his parents get drunk and insult him
and he fends for himself, he thus becomes harder and
colder to us? because he doesn't want to be at home
with these people who refuse to go to his chior
concerts and piano recitals and asks to go to the
movies with us instead of eating a nuked up pizza
slice in the kitchen alone for
lunch is that his fault? i think not. i
have another friend who always wants to be out of
the house because her parents make her do all the
mopping and vaccuming and fetching them drinks and
housework and cleaning thier pool and clean up after
the dog. they gave her two brothers, (ages 9 and 7)
each thier own large rooms with their own bunkbeds
and gave amy a room that used to be a storage
closet. a large closet, but there is barely room to
turn around in as a bed room. her brothers are not
asked to house work and according to her parents,
everything is her fault. like the water bill. it
went like this...
dad: look at this water bill! how many showers have
you been taking?
amy: about one a day.
dad: how long are you in there?
amy: 15 minutes or so
dad: well take shorter showers this bill too
or perhaps the time she asked for a thank you and
her mom said, "honey it is an implied thank
you. being part of this family means doing the
housework and cooking dinner once or twice a week
without being told thank you. it is implied."
when amy responded that her brothers never did
housework, she was sent to go clean the
pool. so you see these are only
two of my friends that have bad families. and it is
not thier fault they do not have strong ties. would
you want to saty around in a home like that if your
friends are willing to take you to the mall or
movies or hang out, because they also
hate it so much or they feel pity for you? i don't
have a home like that but i can name at least five
friends of mine who do. stephen,
amy, krystin, erica, patricia, and
sometimes jessica. i don't
belive it is the fault of the schools. it is the
fault of the parents who implied they don't want
Sat, 8 May 1999 15:19:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Government Wisdom?
Chrysta, Poor Amy! And the others
too. How sad that these things
happen. I am glad that you belong to such a
very loving and nurturing family.
We are that sort of family too.
Regarding learning at school, I agree with you that
family values will supercede humanism in those
families which are active and caring in their roles
as parents. However, in some cases where the
"laws" intercede in a critical stage of
rebellion (which is, so they say these days, a natural part of growing up and
changing) - in some cases, there IS harm done and
the youth grow bitter and confused at a time when
they most need to be communicating with family and
friends, they draw away and are encouraged to do so.
The problem then is that they sort of burn their
bridges behind them and find themselves stranded in
an emotional and sometimes physical "No mans'
But - I do take issue against the murder of babies.
I agree whole-heartedly with you that it is the
womans' choice - but the CHOICE is BEFORE she gets
pregnant. She can choose NOT to GET
pregnant. All too often... there
are those accidents which result in unwanted
pregnancy. BUT, how can you justify
murder as the price of indulging an appetite?
If you had ever seen a REAL video taping of the
"Fetus" being torn apart in the womb, or
burned in poisoned waters of the womb turned deadly
by drugs to kill the child.... You would likely NOT
continue to believe that the right to murder, so
called "pro-choice" by those who seek to
dehumanize the victimization and horrific murders of
those innocents whose mothers do not want to allow
them to be born and given the chance to live and
love and be a part of the world we live in. No
ONE - male OR female, young or old, - has the
right to choose to murder.
It must be very difficult to be your age
and growing up today
in this world of conflict and
wars - insecurities of all kinds... but there is
beauty and love and much more than all the negative
news... There IS a balance in all things.
You are fortunate to be a part of a very warm and
loving family. I am so glad of that. It sounds as
though you are also a warm and caring person and
take care and notice of your peers who have so much
less than you do.... but they are fortunate to
have a dear friend like you to talk to and be
friends with in their world *S*.
You are a very dear young lady, and I am glad to
Thank you for writing and having this communication
with me. Maybe you will grow up to be
our President someday and change all kinds of
things. You certainly do have real "heart and
soul" for your fellow beings on this planet.
Love and hugs, From your GYPSY, (Nina)
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:46:25 -0500
thank you. I agree on the subject of abortion, but i
belive if i am a 16
yr old girl with everything ahead of me and i am
raped then it is alright
for an abortion. the girl did not choose to get
pregnate and is too young
to take care of a child. perhaps if you are older
and single and
financialy secure maybe, but still raped women
should be allowed to do so
in order to lives thier lives.
Mon, 10 May 1999 01:28:18 -0500
Hello again, Chrysta; I
had such a very blessed mothers' day. I went to my
parents "Eagles' club" dinner... there
were four generations of us there at out table, my
mother, myself, one of my daughters, and Brandi, the
other daughters' daughter (whom, as you know, I have
had all of her life and who calls me mommy, but is
my grandchild). That is so special! *S* I hope
that you had a nice one too!
Are you still writing poetry?
you for writing again. I was pleased to see the
e-mail from you. I read it and then went to bed
early, tired from the days' activities and pain (I
have been unable to walk since November),
following a lawn mower accident which resulted in
the "loss" of both knees which will be
replaced in the Fall. I awoke after sleeping a
few hours - and I wanted to get my laptop and write
to you in the quiet of these early morning
house of solitude.
Response ~ Ah...
yes, dear Chrysta.... I HAVE considered the abortion
you speak of. May I ask that you
picture another one with me?
What if Jesus were to come to you this evening,
quietly and only
seen by you. What if He spoke with you, "Hello
extended His arms to embrace you for a moment, then
said "Just a
moment, my dear child, my lamb." then went back
out the door and
re-entered carrying a small bundle in swaddling
across the room and stood near where you could see
the face of
the small being, and then, as He and you looked upon
it, if the
tiny babe opened its' eyes and looked at you and
felt that indescribable feeling that one feels when
look upon the face of their newborn child.
Then Jesus speaks, "Child of mine, I have a
make of you, please. I know that you have other
plans this year.
I must be about our heavenly Fathers' business for
six months but there is this tiny one who needs
care. I have
chosen you and have come to ask that you please take
care of my
little one for me. I will return then and receive
the babe and
take him to the home that is preparing for him
when that day comes - you wish to keep the babe, I
will even give
it to you! But otherwise, there is a man and woman
been waiting a very long time for this child to be
given to them. The choice will be yours in that day.
that time arrives, I need you to carry and nurture
the babe with the
same body we gave to you. It will disrupt some
things in your life, to
do this for me, but not all of it. The expenses will
be paid for you,
for I know that you are too young to be able to do
that. Would you
please do this for me, then?"
"But why me?" you may ask.
"Because the way this child came to be, was
from seed and
genes of your own, and you are half of the child. No
one else was
chosen - for you were the exact right one and this
child could only
be created with your seed alone. There is no one
like you in all the
world, Chrysta. Only you were chosen. Will you
consent to do this?"
You hesitate, of course. So many thoughts and
rush into your mind and it will take time for you to
long, though.... for this is Jesus asking you....
God has created
this child already - using your very own seed....
Then, someone else enters the room, carrying a shiny
scalpel. Although there is no smell of
sulphur, no pointy ears
and yellow-green cat-eyes (which are quite alright
for cats, but
look infinitely terrifying set in a human face as we
have seen in movies such as "The Cat
People").... No red full-body
suit, no red tail with the arrow-like pointed
end.... Nay! This
man has a familiar, every-day sort of face. He is
dressed in a
blue surgical suit, so familiar in the myriad of
and movies... the dedicated, misery and death
and trusted, almost holy professional we call, (with
a touch of awe
and reverence in our voices), "Doctor".
You know though, in your
soul, you recognize him. He is not what he seems on
You know that he seeks to murder and destroy... You
have read and
you know that he "rages about to and fro,
seeking whom he can devour!". He
speaks, "Chrysta, this is too much to ask of
you! Your whole life will be
altered! Your body will grow
distorted and at times you will be so
uncomfortable that you will regret that you agreed
to this task which this Christ is asking of
you! It is not necessary. How can you
just give away six months of your life for
nothing except misery and pain in return for
doing it? Why not get it all behind you and
have this simple intervention we call abortion?"
Christ speaks again, "Chrysta, you are the only
one who can do
this - for it is a part of you already.... and you
will be a part of it forever... Please? Six
months, maybe even less!"
And Lucifer speaks up again, drawing closer and
between you and Jesus who is now holding the child
"Chrysta.... let me have the child."
A light in the room
glints sharply from the life-sacrificing blade...
"I will take care
of this child. You need not concern yourself with it
You know what he means... Your heart is wrenched and
say, "Jesus won't let you do that! You cannot
kill this baby!"
and even as you speak, Christ steps around Satan,
puts the babe in
your arms and says in a soft, gentle voice
"This child is yours, it
is your decision alone. When I return on the
appointed day, you
may choose to keep it or give it to the parents I
spoke of, the man
and woman who, even now, are thrilled that their
waiting will soon be
over.....! If you love me, keep my lamb for 6
months!" and then He
vanishes. You are alone with the `Other' - he
reaches out with the
kindest of countenances.... He offers a thousand
reasons that you
should comply with his infernal request to commit
the murder which he calls by the name of
me the child. Chrysta.
Your friends, your life.... they are waiting for
you. Give me the child and forget all of
There is an inner stirring within you and you hear
the same words, twice more.... "If you love me
Who will you say "Yes" to? Will you allow
the blood of life to flow
out from the babe you are holding? Will you invite
even as you hold the child?
you please do me a kindness and visit these pages
and write to me again? I speak to you
out of Christian love and calling of Christ to do
so. I speak to you out of the common bond of life
which we share. We are all diminished by
each death. Where we consent to the murder of
utterly helpless and vulnerable beings - regardless
of how they are conceived.... we are holding that
babe in our arms while Satan makes another sacrifice
on the alter of humanism and justification.... The
bloodstains of the unborn will cry out to you all
the rest of your life and when you have to answer
for that deed, you will know without a doubt,
the "fetus" was Christ Himself... as you
crucified Him anew.... for every life is His...
purchased by His blood and the blood was given
because He loves every one of us..... If
even one sparrow does not fall unnoticed - you can
that He watches these murders.
God bless your reading and response as you visit (if
you will) - the following.
OF ABORTION (LETTER)
A BABYs’ PLEA
BALLAD OF THE UNBORN
are a very special young woman, Chrysta! What an
honor I feel
that it is to communicate with you this way. *s* I
do not feel
any sense of judgmentalism toward your opinions. We
must each, in
the end, answer only to God for our choices. I
opportunity to share Christ and what I know and feel
about Him. I
expect nothing more than that He reap what He
inspires me to sow.
I know that your aunt and uncle were one of those
ones to whom Christ brought such a child - a VERY
special one at
that! So I know that you know intimately, how
blessed everyone is
in each little one who is brought into the world to
share our lives.
There is also an exchange with a young college-
"daddy" who wrote
to me pleading for prayer that his
"girlfriend" would not murder his
out-of-wedlock and unplanned-for child.... Here,
entry down) and
then further down you will see more from him where
there is a
flashing-green "update" graphic.
Love, prayers and hugs, for you, dear One,
>From your GYPSY, (Nina)
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From: "Mackenzie Burton"
Subject: mother killers!
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 00:09:50 -0700
why is it that people like you are only concerned about the welfare of americans while they are still in the womb? you have to understand that abortion is not a form of birth control it is a medical procedure done to protect the lives of not only children, but mothers as well. you would rather have still born, or those that wish they were, is it better to lose one life or two? educate yourselfs b4 you take up a cause. nothing good comes of an ignorant activist
Date: Thursday, 20 Dec 2001 14:06:01 -0800
Subject: Re: mother killers!
To: Mackenzie Burton <email@example.com>
----> why is it that people like you
^Not knowing exactly what this term means, coming from you, I have no comment here.
----> are only concerned about the welfare of americans while they are
still in the womb?
^Who said this? I am concerned for all people and particularly, for all
AMERICANS - not only those in the womb. Assumptions are usually fraught with much delusion and error,
you had nothing whatsoever to base your assumption on either.
----> you have to understand that abortion is not a form of birth control
^I never said this either... so I'm not sure why or how you came to think that this was my opinion. Although people often use most anything for
various purposes other than that which the "thing" was designed to do,
their use does not alter or necessarily even reflect the designers' intent or purpose.
----> it is a medical procedure done to protect the lives of not only
children, but mothers as well.
^Murder, by whatever name, does not protect, it destroys.
Have you any idea of the toll which abortion has taken upon the mothers who
submitted for that procedure only to later suffer guilt and regret, and in
many cases, who committed suicide in the wake of such procedures? And some
are existing forms of living death bearing the guilt. Women who
choose to have abortions are not only rendered `no longer pregnant'....
they become mothers of dead children.
----> you would rather have still born, or those that wish they were,
^Mothers who give birth to stillborn are not murderers, nor are they guilty of choosing and purchasing assassination of innocents
nestled viable in their wombs.
^As for a child who wishes they were never born? That has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion... It has to do with experiences and
how they see themselves and the world around them. That wish (to never
have been born) comes not with birth itself, but from experiences thereafter.
----> is it better to lose one life or two?
^This has nothing to do with abortion either. No one can say or see for certain, that a therapeutic-abortion can save either life...
or that the refusal of abortion will result in even one death. How many
of those aborted humans would have been mothers? So the title of your
message, "MOTHER KILLERS" falls heavily, in my perception of these issues,
upon the shoulders of all who kill and/or, help in the killing of, those
future mothers and their children who never had a chance to ~be~ or fulfill
their inherent potentials?
----> educate yourselfs b4 you take up a cause.
^I am thoroughly educated about any "cause" I take up, before
I act to intervene or champion a cause. It sounds as though this advise
would be well used by you, yourself.
----> nothing good comes of an ignorant activist
^You are absolutely right here! Again, I suggest that you take this advise
yourself before you campaign for the continuance of murdering
innocents. We will all be held accountable for our actions and inactions -
each one of them. Are you ready to do that and feel capable of justifying
Because I'm His, Nina
Subject: A Baby's Plea
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:42:09 -0600
I just want to tell you that in reading your
poem, A BABYs’ PLEA
I am hoping my ex-girlfriend will feel
guilty about murdering my child that she will not go
through and have an abortion. It made me cry.... If you
email me back my email is Jbriggum@hiwaay.net.... Thank
you so much ~ John Briggum
My Dear Friend, John; Thank you so very
much for sharing that with us. We will be in prayer for
your baby! I don't know where you are or who the mother
is, but God knows all and He will know who we are praying
for. Is the mommy a Christian? Most churches have access
to help resources of every kind - from providing the
essentials like a home and sustenance - to adoption
and/or helping the mother and child after the birth too.
Oh, I DO so hope that she will listen to your pleas and
those silent inner ones from the new life developing
inside of her. I care and would like to know how it turns
out for your child. Would you please let me know? Also,
you did not mention that you would prefer not to be in
the guestbook on line, so I will wait for permission
(just to be assured) to share your message after you let
me know that you do or do not want it made public.... in
the case that you would prefer to have it just between us
in private. And yet - I would like to see this childs'
fathers' love there for all to see! Let me know. Roger is
also deeply gratified and blessed to know that his poem
may help to save yet another life! I hope, John, that she
will reconsider. I am blessed that you shared with us and
we can stand in prayer with you for your strength and for
intercession on behalf of your child! God bless... Write
to us if you just want to talk... We care, we really do!
Love and a hug from,
Yours because I'm His, Your GYPSY, (Nina)
& Roger Baker
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (huskers fan)
Subject: Re: A Baby's Plea
Thank you for replying to my email. Yes that would be ok
to post in your guestbook, but you would have to send me
the address to the website so I could go and see it. I
was on so many webpages Friday I couldn't remember where
yall are..... Thanks again, John
Hello again, John; Any news as yet about
the baby? We are keeping all of you in prayer. I do hope
you will let me know how it goes for you. Our site is
listed below my name here. It is a varied offering. I
began it when my son, Eric, was killed just before
graduating from Ferrum College. I began the site as a
offering of hiw writings and of tributes others made of
him after he was killed. On the table you will find the
prolife works& links at the lower left hand corner of
the table you find. Re; surfing - I know what you mean -
one thing leads you to one other and so on and on we go
clicking our way around the globe in the wink of an eye
and unless we check our history folder in browser - NO
WAY could we remember them all! *smiling* Thank you for
allowing the guestbook entry. The fathers' side of the
tragedy of abortion is so seldom spoken for! I am glad
that you are trying to save yours! God bless you.
Yours because I'm His, Your GYPSY, (Nina)
Subject: Re: A Baby's Plea
Dear Gypsy: No mam there ain't no word yet, because she
won't talk to me. I don't know why she all the sudden did
this to me, she has. It happened last Saturday night. It
has been a week, I was trying to block out the break-up,
but yesterday was real hard on me. I cried myself to
sleep last night, just thinking about the baby and what
he/she is thinking. It just kills me to even think there
is a slight possibility that my baby will be killed or
stupidity. Thanks again in replying to my email and keep
praying for me. ~ Love, John
Subject: Thinking and praying about you
Dear John; You, your baby and the babys' mom will remain
in our prayers. Last night, my 9 year-old Brandi, prayed
with me that "Johns' baby will be born for him".
Let us know if you think about it in the future, we will
be continuing thinking and praying for you all.
Yours because I'm His, Love and a special hug
From your GYPSY, (Nina)
this joyous news from John
Subject: Re: Thinking and praying about you
Hello. I don't know if you remember me. But I talked to my ex girlfriend
and she is not gonna get an abortion. So I just want to thank you for
praying for me and all the encouragement you gave me. It looks like it
may work and I will be come a daddy. This is one easter I will remember
forever. Thank you so much. John
Oh, my dear John! I am so very pleased about this news, and so very
happy that you shared with us! Thank you~!!! Brandi (9 year old) says
that she wants you and the mommy to know that we really cared and prayed
and hope that you might write sometimes and tell us how everything and
is going. I hope so too! *S*. I hope that you have had a lovely Easter.
You will have many, many more and when you get to share them with your
child they will be the best of all! *S!* ~ We had a lovely family
Easter. My mother worked all day to make different oriental dishes (we
all especially love egg-rolls) and we took coconut pie and coconut cake
for dessert. I have always understood about the sacrifice and blood
atonement of our Lamb of God for redemption.... But the most incredible
thing to me, is the wonder of His leaving heaven and actually taking on
all of our human frailties for all those years... THAT is such a great
love that it is all I can do to comprehend that He did it for us! And
for love of us! Oh, how I love Jesus! And in Him, we love you too, John.
Hope to hear from you again.
Yours because I'm His, Your GYPSY, (Nina)
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